Ischinger sieht bei Bundeswehr „krassen Nachholbedarf“

Berlin  Der Chef der Münchner Sicherheitskonferenz kennt sich aus mit weltpolitischen Krisen. Nun fordert er mehr Geld für die Bundeswehr.

Wolfgang Ischinger ist Chef der Münchner Sicherheitskonferenz.

Wolfgang Ischinger ist Chef der Münchner Sicherheitskonferenz.

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Sein erster Arbeitstag als deutscher Botschafter in Washington war der 11. September 2001. Wie kaum ein anderer Diplomat kennt sich Wolfgang Ischinger mit weltpolitischen Krisen aus. Der heutige Chef der Münchner Sicherheitskonferenz, die kommenden Freitag wieder beginnt, spricht im Interview über die Gefahr der Stationierung neuer Mittelstreckenraketen in Europa, die hervorgehobene Rolle Frankreichs und das Verhältnis zu US-Präsident ­Donald Trump.

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