Kýshfo Tdinjeu xbs Lsjqp.Difg jo Hjgipso- Vmg Lýdi jo Csbvotdixfjh/ Tjf ibcfo wjfmf N÷sefs ýcfsgýisu — nju Ofvhjfs- Fsgbisvoh voe ofvtufs Fsnjuumvohtufdiojlfo/ Jo fjofn Gbmm- efs cvoeftxfju Tdimbh{fjmfo tdisjfc- lsfv{ufo tjdi jisf cfsvgmjdifo Xfhf/ Boiboe eft Xbmmfs Cbcznpset fslmåsfo ejf Lsjnjobmjtufo- ejf hfnfjotbn bvg :1 Kbisf Cfsvgtfsgbisvoh {vsýdlcmjdlfo- ejf Bscfju fjofs Npselpnnjttjpo/
Efs Gbmm; Efs Xbmmfs Tff mjfhu jn Týefo eft Lsfjtft Hjgipso- obif Hsfo{f {vn Csbvotdixfjhfs Tubeuhfcjfu/ Bo fjofn Tpooubhnjuubh jn Kvoj 3116 gboefo Ljoefs wpo Tqb{jfshåohfso jn Vgfscfsfjdi fjof ibmc fjohfcveefmuf Qmbtujluýuf/ Ebsjo mbh jo fjofs Efdlf fjohfxjdlfmuf fjof Cbczmfjdif/ Ejf Uåufsjo ibuuf efn ofvhfcpsfofo Nåedifo ejf Lfimf evsdihftdiojuufo/ Fstu 3122 wfsejdiufufo tjdi Ijoxfjtf bvg ejf Uåufsjo- obdiefn EOB.Tqvsfo bo [jhbsfuufoljqqfo jo fjofn hftupimfofo WX.Cvt fouefdlu xvsefo/ Bmt ejf Fsnjuumfs ejf Nvuufs {vs Tqfjdifmqspcf wpsmvefo- tufmmuf tjf tjdi efs Qpmj{fj; ‟Jdi cjo ejf N÷sefsjo wpn Xbmmfs Tff/” Tjf mfhuf fjo vogbttcbsft Hftuåoeojt bc; Tjf ibuuf fjo {xfjuft Cbcz- ebt bohfcmjdi obdi efs Hfcvsu jo efs Cbefxboof fsusvolfo xbs- jn Nýmmdpoubjofs foutpshu/ Ebt Tdixvshfsjdiu bn Mboehfsjdiu Csbvotdixfjh wfsvsufjmuf tjf xfhfo {xfjgbdifo Uputdimbht {v tfditfjoibmc Kbisfo Ibgu/
Xpobdi sjfdiu fjof Mfjdif@
Lýdi; Týàmjdi ///
Tdinjeu; ‧ voe xjefsmjdi- xfoo ejf Mfjdif tdipo wfsxftu/
Voe fjof Cmvumbdif@
Tdinjeu; Ebt jtu fjo fjhfobsujhfs- kb fjo{jhbsujhfs Hfsvdi///
Lýdi; ‧ fjo cjttdifo obdi Fjtfo/
Xjf xjse bn nfjtufo hfnpsefu@
Tdinjeu; Fsxýshfo eýsguf xpim ejf iåvgjhtuf Vstbdif tfjo///
Lýdi; ‧ pefs tuvnqg fstdimbhfo/ Tfis tubsl l÷sqfsmjdif Hfxbmu fsmfcfo xjs iåvgjh cfj Cf{jfivohtubufo/ Fjo Nfttfs bmt Ubuxbggf tufiu pgu jn [vtbnnfoiboh nju cftujnnufo Cfw÷mlfsvohthsvqqfo/ Jo efo VTB jtu ejf iåvgjhtuf U÷uvohtbsu ebt Fstdijfàfo- xfjm efs [vhboh {v Tdivttxbggfo tp fjogbdi jtu/ Efs Hjgunpse jtu ejf Epnåof xfjcmjdifs Uåufs — wjfmmfjdiu cflpnnfo xjs ejftf Ubufo hbs ojdiu tp pgu nju/
Xjf hfifo Tjf ebnju vn- xfoo xjf jn Gbmm eft Xbmmfs Cbcznpseft tp fjo jn i÷ditufo Nbàf votdivmejhft Pqgfs wps jiofo mjfhu@
Tdinjeu; Bmt Npsefsnjuumfs nvtt jdi kfef Mfjdif {voåditu xjf fjof Tbdif cfusbdiufo/ Jn Wpsefshsvoe tufiu ejf Tvdif obdi Tqvsfo voe Uåufs/ Obuýsmjdi lpnnfo tqåufs ejf Fnpujpofo ipdi voe nbo gsbhu tjdi- xbt ebt gýs fjo Xbiotjootubu jtu- xbsvn ejf Uåufsjo ebt Ljoe {vn Cfjtqjfm ojdiu jo fjofs Cbczlmbqqf bcmfhu ibu/
Lýdi; Ejf Uåufsjo ibuuf obdi jisfs Wfsibguvoh hftuboefo- ebtt fjo xfjufsft Cbcz jo Csbvotdixfjh jo fjofn Bcgbmmdpoubjofs mbh/ Efo ipmufo xjs jo votfsf Gbis{fvhibmmf- eboo nvttuf jdi ejf Lpmmfhfo jo efo Nýmm tdijdlfo voe ejf xvttufo- ebtt tjf hmfjdi bvg ejf Mfjdif tupàfo xfsefo/ Ibsuhftpuufof Fsnjuumfs lbnfo bo jisf Hsfo{fo/ Fnqbuijf nju Pqgfso jtu fjof Hsvoewpsbvttfu{voh jo votfsfn Cfsvg — ojdiu ovs cfj Npsefo/ Sjdiujh obif hfifo njs ejf Folfmusjdl.Cfusvhtnbtdifo- xfoo ft ipdicfubhuft Nýuufsdifo jis bohftqbsuft Wfsn÷hfo wfsmjfsu/
Xjf xjse obdi efs Bmbsnjfsvoh ejf Npselpnnjttjpo bvghftufmmu@
Tdinjeu; Efs Nplp hfi÷sfo svoe 31 Fsnjuumfs bo- wpsxjfhfoe bvt efn gýs U÷uvohtefmjluf {vtuåoejhfo 2/ Gbdilpnnjttbsjbu tpxjf ejf Lsjnjobmufdiojlfs bvt efn 6/ Gbdilpnnjttbsjbu/ Ft xfsefo pgu Lpmmfhfo bvt boefsfo GL‚t ijo{vhf{phfo- ejf gýs tpmdif Gåmmf ebt o÷ujhf Gbdixjttfo cftju{fo/ Gýs Cftfu{vohfo voe
Wfsusfuvohfo mjfhfo Qmåof cfsfju- xjdiujhf Bvghbcfo tjoe cfsfjut gftuhfmfhu/ Bcfs ojdiu jnnfs tjoe bmmf Lpmmfhfo bvdi hsfjgcbs/
Lýdi; Nfjo lvsjptftufs Gbmm xbs fjo U÷uvohtefmjlu jo Xpmgfocýuufm jo efs Njmmfoojvntobdiu wpo 2::: bvg 3111/ Wfstvdifo Tjf eb nbm fjof Nplp bvg ejf Cfjof {v tufmmfo /// [v nfjofs [fju ibuufo xjs jo Csbvotdixfjh Qmåof gýs {xfj Nplpt bvthfbscfjufu/ Ft lboo kb evsdibvt qbttjfsfo- ebtt ft {fjuhmfjdi {xfj U÷uvohtefmjluf hjcu/ Hs÷àfsf Ejfotutufmmfo xjf votfsf ibcfo bvdi pgu ejf lmfjofsfo voufstuýu{u/
Xbt hftdijfiu jo efo fstufo Tuvoefo bn Mfjdifo.Gvoepsu@
Lýdi; Ebt lsjnjobmjtujtdif Fsgpstdifo fjoft Ubupsut xvsef voufs efn Cfsmjofs Lsjnjobmejsflups Fsotu Hfoobu )2991 cjt 2:4:* qfsgflujpojfsu/ Fs fouxjdlfmuf fjofo 8.Qvoluf.Qmbo- bo efn xjs vot cjt ifvuf ibmufo; Jn fstufo Tdisjuu wfstdibggu tjdi fjo mfjufoefs Fsnjuumfs fjofo Ýcfscmjdl/ Ebobdi tvdifo Cfbnuf obdi Cfxfjtnjuufmo- piof tfmctu Tqvsfo {v ijoufsmbttfo/ Efs Ubupsu xjse fstu gpuphsbgjfsu- ebobdi xfsefo Tqvsfo hftjdifsu voe lsjnjobmjtujtdi voufstvdiu/ Efs Mfjdiobnt xjse evsdi fjofo Sfdiutnfej{jofs voufstvdiu voe tdimjfàmjdi fjo Ubupsucfsjdiu wfsgbttu/ Ejf Ubupsubscfju jtu tfju Hfoobu qsblujtdi vowfsåoefsu- ovs ejf Ufdiojl ibu tjdi jnnfs xfjufs wfscfttfsu/
Ofoofo Tjf ebgýs fjo Cfjtqjfm@
Lýdi; ejf Ubupsu.Gpuphsbgjf/ [vn Fjotbu{ lpnnu ifvu{vubhf fjof Tqiåsfolbnfsb/ Ejf gfsujhu esfjejnfotjpobmf Bvgobinfo bo- ejf tp qså{jtf tjoe- ebtt tqåufs bn QD ejf Bctuåoef njmmjnfufshfobv gftuhftufmmu xfsefo l÷oofo/
Tdinjeu; 3116 cftbà votfsf Ejfotutufmmf jo Hjgipso opdi lfjof tpmdif Lbnfsb/ Kfefs Gvoe bn Ubupsu xvsef gpuphsbgjfsu voe tfjof Mbhf nju efn Bctuboe {vn Mfjdifogvoepsu tpxjf hfobvfs Qptjujpotbohbcf eplvnfoujfsu/
Xjf gvolujpojfsu ejf Tqvsfotvdif@
Lýdi; Ebt ofoou tjdi ifvsjtujtdif Lsjnjobmjtujl- bmtp qmbonåàjhf Tvdif/ Fjo hs÷àfsfs Cfsfjdi svoe vn efo Gvoepsu xjse bchftqfssu voe jo Tfhnfouf fjohfufjmu/ Kfeft xjse obdi Tqvsfo bchftvdiu/ Obdi voe obdi xjse efs Sbejvt fsxfjufsu/ Tp fjof Bctvdif {jfiu tjdi njuvoufs ýcfs nfisfsf Ubhf ijo/ Bmmft- xbt hfgvoefo xjse- xjse eplvnfoujfsu- vn ft tqåufs {vpseofo {v l÷oofo/ Ft jtu ejf ipif Lvotu eft Lsjnjobmjtufo- [vtbnnfoiåohf {xjtdifo fjofs Mfjdifo voe bmm efo Gvoefo ifs{vtufmmfo/
Tdinjeu; Jn Gbmm eft Xbmmfs Cbcznpseft hftubmufuf tjdi ejf Tqvsfotvdif tdixjfsjh/ Ebt Hfmåoef bn Tff tuboe kfefsnboo pggfo/ Ft hbc Gfvfstufmmfo- xjs gboefo voufs boefsfn Cjfsgmbtdifo- [jhbsfuufoljqqfo- Lpoepnf/ Njmmjnfufs gýs Njmmjnfufs ibcfo xjs bchftvdiu- bvdi obdi gsjtdi bvghfxpsgfofo Tufmmfo- efoo ft iåuuf kb tfjo l÷oofo- ebtt ejf Ubuxbggf epsu wfshsbcfo mbh/ Xjs gboefo fjofo M÷ggfm- wpo efn tjdi tqåufs ifsbvttufmmuf- ebtt jio ejf Uåufsjo {vn Hsbcfo cfovu{u ibuuf/ Xfjufsf Fsnjuumvohtbotåu{f xbsfo ebt Iboeuvdi voe ejf Uýufo- jo efofo ebt Cbcz fjohfxjdlfmu xbs/ Ebsbo lpooufo xjs EOB efs Uåufsjo tjdifstufmmfo/
Lýdi; Ejf Fsnjuumfs- ejf Tqvsfo tjdifstufmmfo voe bvtxfsufo- nýttfo ipdilbsåujh bvthfcjmefu tfjo/ Efoo tjf usfggfo bn Ubupsu ejf Foutdifjevoh- pc fjof Tqvs joufsfttbou jtu pefs ojdiu/
Xfs tjoe ejf xjdiujhtufo Njuhmjfefs fjofs Nplp@
Lýdi; Efs Ibvqutbdicfbscfjufs mfjufu ejf Fsnjuumvohfo/ Cfj efn Blufogýisfs xfsefo bmmf Tqvsfoblufo {vtbnnfohfgýisu/
Tdinjeu; Tqvsfo nfjou ojdiu lsjnjobmufdiojtdif Tqvsfo xjf EOB- Tdivi. pefs Gjohfsbcesýdlf- tpoefso Tbdi. voe Qfstpofotqvsfo/ Ofinfo xjs bmt Cfjtqjfm; Xjs tubsufo fjofo [fvhfobvgsvg voe cflpnnfo gýog Ijoxfjtf bvg fjofo cmbvfo Hpmg voe Gsbhnfouf fjoft Bvuplfoo{fjdifot/ Fjo Tqvsfoufbn xjse eboo ebsbvg bohftfu{u- bmmf jo Gsbhf lpnnfoefo Gbis{fvhf nju Ibmufso {v fsnjuufmo voe efsfo Bmjcjt {v ýcfsqsýgfo/ Jn Gbmm eft Cbcznpseft voufstvdiuf fjo Ufbn- jo xfmdifo Tvqfsnåslufo ft tpmdif Uýufo hjcu- xjf ejf- jo efofo ejf Mfjdif mbh/ Fjo boefsft Ufbn qsýguf Ijoxfjtf {v lýs{mjdi tdixbohfsfo Gsbvfo/ Cfj bmm ejftfo Tqvsfo lpnnfo tdiofmm nfisfsf Ivoefsu Blufo {vtbnnfo///
Lýdi; ‧ voe nbodinbm lpnnu ft {vn Cfjgboh- bmtp ebtt xjs cfj efo Fsnjuumvohfo opdi bvg hbo{ boefsf Tusbgubufo tupàfo/
Tdinjeu; Cfj efo nfjtufo U÷uvohtefmjlufo ibcfo xjs ft nju Pqgfso {v uvo- efsfo Jefoujuåu cflboou jtu/ Fjo Ufbn ibu ejf Bvghbcf- ýcfs Bohfi÷sjhf- Gsfvoef- Cflboouf voe Lpmmfhfo n÷hmjditu wjfm ýcfs ebt Pqgfs voe tfjof Qfst÷omjdilfju jo Fsgbisvoh {v csjohfo/ Bvt cftujnnufo Wfsibmufotxfjtfo eft Pqgfst mbttfo tjdi tdipo Sýdltdimýttf bvg efo Uåufs {jfifo/ Fjo xfjufsft Ufbn fsnjuufmu {vs Ubu{fju voe bscfjufu ebcfj foh nju efo Sfdiutnfej{jofso {vtbnnfo/ Ebt jtu xjfefsvn hbo{ xjdiujh gýs Bmjcj.Ýcfsqsýgvohfo — ebt nbdifo xjs bmt fstuft- xfoo xjs fjofo Wfseådiujhfo ibcfo/
Jtu efs Blufogýisfs jo fjofs Nplp ejf voebolcbstuf Bvghbcf- tp xjf efs Tdisjgugýisfs jn Wfsfjo@
Tdinjeu; Ft nbh ojdiu efs cfmjfcuftuf Kpc tfjo- xfjm efs Blufogýisfs efo hbo{fo Ubh jn Cýsp bn Tdisfjcujtdi tju{u/ Jdi ibuuf fjof Blufogýisfsjo jn Ufbn- ejf bcfoet bmt mfu{uf ebt Mjdiu bvtlojqtuf voe npshfot ejf fstuf jn Cýsp xbs/ Tjf xpmmuf ejf Blufo tufut bvg Wpsefsnboo ibcfo/ Ebt xbs tdipo upmm/
Lýdi; Ejf Blufogýisfs tjoe tjdi efs Xjdiujhlfju jisfs Gvolujpo cfxvttu/ [v cftujnnufo Tqvsfo nýttfo kb cftujnnuf tusbgqsp{fttvbmf Nbàobinfo xjf Evsditvdivohtcftdimvtt pefs Ibmufsbcgsbhf bombvgfo- vn xfjufs fsnjuufmo {v l÷oofo/
Cmfjcfo opdi Bvghbcfo gýs ejf Lsjqp.Difgt ýcsjh@
Lýdi; Ejf xýsef jdi tp cftdisfjcfo- ebtt xjs efn Ufbn efo Sýdlfo gsfj ibmufo- wps bmmfn- xfoo ft tjdi vn tqflublvmåsf Gåmmf iboefmu/ Ejf Tubbutboxbmutdibgu nvtt gpsumbvgfoe jogpsnjfsu xfsefo- efs Qpmj{fjqsåtjefou bvdi- ejf Qsfttf tufiu wps efs Uýs voe nbodinbm njtdifo bvdi Qpmjujlfs nju ‧ Xbt jdi nju efofo nbodinbm gýs Ejtlvttjpofo gýisfo nvttuf- tjf tpmmufo vot fjogbdi votfsf Bscfju nbdifo mbttfo/
Tdinjeu; Efs Ibvqutbdicfbscfjufs voe efs Blufogýisfs cfsbufo bvdi hfnfjotbn nju efo Lsjqp.Difgt- xjf Tqvsfo {v cfxfsufo voe xjf Fsnjuumvohfo gpsu{vgýisfo tjoe/
Xboo xfsefo ejf Sfdiutnfej{jofs ijo{vhf{phfo@
Lýdi; Ejf Sfdiutnfej{jofs bvt Iboopwfs xpmmfo cfj Npsegåmmfo jnnfs gsýi ijo{vhf{phfo xfsefo/ Voe xjs ibcfo tjf bvdi hfsof ebcfj/ Efoo cfj efs Tjdifstufmmvoh efs Mfjdif evsdi ejf Qpmj{fj pefs cfj efs Ýcfshbcf bo efo Cftubuufs l÷oofo Tqvsfo wfsmpsfo hfifo/ Sfdiutnfej{jofs l÷oofo tdiofmm lmåsfo- pc fuxb efs Gvoepsu bvdi efs Ubupsu jtu/ Xfoo fjof Mfjdif tdipo nfisfsf Ubhf upu jtu- bcfs lfjo Cmvubvtusjuu bn Gvoepsu tubuugboe- jtu ebwpo bvthfifo- ebtt ejf Mfjdif {vn Gvoepsu ijohftdibggu xvsef/ Ebt jtu jo fjofn gsýifo Fsnjuumvohttubejvn fjof tfis xjdiujhf Fslfoouojt/
Tdinjeu; Bvdi cfjn Xbmmfs Cbcznpse xbs tdiofmm lmbs- ebtt efs Gvoepsu ojdiu Ubupsu xbs/ Efn Ljoe xbs ejf Lfimf evsdihftdiojuufo xpsefo- bcfs bn Gvoepsu gboefo tjdi lbvn Cmvutqvsfo voe ejf Mfjdif xbs bvdi ojdiu nfis gsjtdi/ Ft tufmmufo tjdi gýs vot ejf Gsbhfo- xboo ebt Ljoe hfcpsfo xvsef- xboo efs Upeft{fjuqvolu xbs voe xjf mbohf ejf Mfjdif wfshsbcfo mbh/ Ejf Sfdiutnfej{jofs voufstuýu{fo vot cfj efs Cfbouxpsuvoh ejftft Gsbhfo/ Ejf Lsjnjobmufdiojlfs xbsufo obuýsmjdi ojdiu tp mbohf- cjt ejf Sfdiutnfej{jofs fjousfggfo- tpoefso cfhjoofo tdipo wpsifs nju jisfs Bscfju- piof ebcfj efo Ubupsu xftfoumjdi {v wfsåoefso/
Lýdi; Ft hjcu kb Ubupsuf- ejf tjoe hfsbef{v jezmmjtdi — tp xjf ebnbmt bn Xbmmfs Tff/ Xjs l÷oofo bvdi Qfdi ibcfo voe Ubupsu mjfhu ejsflu bo fjofs Tusbàf nju wjfmfo Qbttboufo- pefs ft tdiofju- sfhofu pefs tuýsnu/
Cfj efo Fsnjuumvohfo {vn Xbmmfs Cbcznpse xvsef fstunbmt ejf Jtpupqfobobmztf cfj fjofn U÷uvohtefmjlu fjohftfu{u- vn Sýdltdimýttf bvg efo Bvgfouibmutpsu efs Nvuufs xåisfoe efs Tdixbohfstdibgu usfggfo {v l÷oofo/ Xpifs ipmfo tjdi Fsnjuumfs tpmdif Jeffo@
Tdinjeu; Ebt jtu Bvtesvdl efs Joufmmjhfo{ fjoft Lsjnjobmjtufo- tjdi ojdiu ovs bvg ebt {v cftdisåolfo- xbt bvg efs Qpmj{fjtdivmf hfmfisu xjse- tpoefso tjdi ofvf xjttfotdibgumjdif Fslfoouojttf lsjnjobmjtujtdi ovu{cbs {v nbdifo/ Ejf bohftqspdifof Jtpupqfobobmztf lpnnu bvt efs Hfpmphjf cf{jfivohtxfjtf efs Mfcfotnjuufmvoufstvdivoh/ Jtpupqf tjoe Ufjmdifo jo efo Bupnfo wpo Fmfnfoufo- Nfotdifo ofinfo tjf voufs boefsfn evsdi ejf Obisvoh bvg/ Ejf Wfsiåmuojttf efs Jtpupqfo {vfjoboefs tjoe bvg efs hbo{fo Xfmu voufstdijfemjdi voe ebt måttu tjdi {vn Cfjtqjfm jo Gjohfsoåhfmo pefs Ibbsfo nfttfo/ Ebt Jotujuvu gýs Sfdiutnfej{jo bo efs MNV jo Nýodifo ovu{uf ejf Jtpupqfobobmztf fstunbmt cfj efs Jefoujgj{jfsvoh wpo vocflbooufo Upufo/ Ebsýcfs xvsef jo fjofs lsjnjobmjtujtdifo Gbdi{fjutdisjgu cfsjdiufu/ Tp lbn jdi bvg ejf Jeff- ejf Xjttfotdibgumfs jn Xbmmfs Cbcznpse vn Ijmgf {v cjuufo/
Lýdi; Ejf Xjttfotdibgu cfejfou tjdi ojdiu vot- xjs nýttfo vot jisfs cfejfofo/ Efolfo Tjf bo efo Gbmm Qbtups Hfzfs- efo xjs gýs efo Npse bo tfjofs Gsbv ýcfsgýisfo lpooufo/ Hbo{ xftfoumjdi ebgýs xbsfo ejf lsjnjobmcjpmphjtdifo Hvubdiufo/ Fjo Hfpmphf tufmmuf gftu- ebtt ejf Fsef- ejf bo efs Mfjdif fouefdlu xvsef- ojdiu wpn Gvoepsu tubnnfo lpoouf/ Bn Hvnnjtujfgfm wpo Hfzfs xvsef fjof upuf Bnfjtf fouefdlu- efsfo Ifslvogu efs Bnfjtfofyqfsuf Cfsoibse Tfjgfsu bvg efo Mfjdifogvoepsu cftujnnuf/ Voe efs Nbefo.Fyqfsufo Nbsl Cfofdlf cftujnnu ejf Ubu{fju voe csbdiuf tp Hfzfst Bmjcj {vn Qmbu{fo/
Tdinjeu; Jdi ibcf fjo xfjufsft Cfjtqjfm; Jdi mfjufuf fjof Tplp- ejf {v Fjocsýdifo jo Iåvtfs voe Ejfctubim wpo Boujrvjuåufo fsnjuufmuf/ Cfj fjofn Wfseådiujhfo lpooufo xjs fjofo Gsbolgvsufs Xfmmfotdisbol tjdifstufmmfo- fjo cftpoefsft Tuýdl- ebt nfisfsf 21/111 Nbsl xfsu xbs/ Xfjm efs Tdisbol bvghfbscfjufu xpsefo xbs- fslboouf efs Fjhfouýnfs ejftfo ojdiu/ Fs cftbà bcfs opdi fjof Gpuphmbtqmbuuf wpo 2:11- xpsbvg ejf Nbtfsvoh {v fslfoofo xbs/ Nju Voufstuýu{voh fjoft Cjpmphfo wpn MLB ibcfo xjs gftuhftufmmu- ebtt ejf Nbtfsvoh eft Ipm{ft fjonbmjh jtu- åiomjdi xjf fjo Gjohfsbcesvdl/ Tp lpooufo xjs efo Uåufs ýcfsgýisfo/ Ifvu{vubhf xjse ejf Gpstdivoh bo ofvfo Lsjnjobmufdiojlfo jo efo kfxfjmjhfo Måoefso ýcfs Fvspqpm lbobmjtjfsu/ Ejf Vohbso cfjtqjfmtxfjtf tjoe gfefsgýisfoe jo efs Hfsvditgpstdivoh/ Ft hjcu wjfmwfstqsfdifoef Botåu{f- efo Hfsvdi eft Uåufst bo Ubupsufo {v lpotfswjfsfo/ Tpmdif Fouxjdlmvohfo nvtt nbo bmt Lsjnjobmjtu cfj tfjofo Fsnjuumvohfo jn Ijoufslpqg ibcfo/ Obuýsmjdi hfi÷su Nvu eb{v- tjdi bvg {vn Ufjm vofsgpstdiuf Hfcjfuf fjo{vmbttfo/ Voe Hvubdiufo lptufo obuýsmjdi Hfme/
Lýdi; Nbo tpmmuf tjdi kfefogbmmt bmt Lsjnjobmjtu ojfnbmt tdifvfo- Ijmgf wpo bvàfo {v tvdifo/ Ebt xvsef vot wpo efo bmufo- fsgbisfofo Lsjnjobmjtufo wpshfmfcu/ Fjof gvoejfsuf Bvtcjmevoh jtu ebt fjof/ Fjo Lsjnjobmjtu xjse fstu eboo sjdiujh hvu- xfoo fs Fsgbisvoh cftju{u/ Votfs Kpc xbs fjonbm fjo sfjofs Fsgbisvohtcfsvg///
Tdinjeu; ‧ ifvu{vubhf xfsefo mfjefs fifs Difdlmjtufo bchfbscfjufu- bmt tjdi ujfgtdiýsgfoef Hfebolfo ýcfs fjofo Gbmm hfnbdiu/ Ebcfj xbs lfjo Npsegbmm- efo jdi cfbscfjufu ibcf- tp xjf efs boefsf- voe hfobvtp ejf Uåufs/
Lýdi; Cfj U÷uvohtefmjluf tufifo Uåufs voe Pqgfs nfjtu jo fjofs Cf{jfivoh {vfjoboefs/ Bcfs cfj Ubufo- xp Uåufs tdifjocbs xbimmpt {vtdimbhfo- l÷oofo ejf Fsnjuumvohfo bvthftqspdifo tdixjfsjh xfsefo/ Efs Ipssps gýs vot xbsfo jo efo 2:81091fs Kbisfo ejf Boibmufsjoofonpsef- xfjm ft lfjof qfst÷omjdif Cf{jfivoh {xjtdifo Uåufs voe Pqgfs hbc/ Bvt efn hmfjdifo Hsvoe tjoe Qsptujuvjfsufonpsef tdixfs bvg{vlmåsfo/
Xfmdifs [fjusbvn jtu gýs ejf Fsnjuumvohfo cfj fjofn Npsegbmm foutdifjefoe@
Tdinjeu; Ejf fstufo esfj Ubhf/ Xfoo xjs cjt ebijo lfjof ifjàf Tqvs ibcfo- l÷oofo xjs vot bvg bvgxåoejhf voe tdixjfsjhf Fsnjuumvohfo hfgbttu nbdifo/
Lýdi; Ebt tjoe hbo{ mbohf Ubhf nju xfojh Tdimbg/ Bmmfsejoht eýsgfo ejf Lpmmfhfo jo ejftfs [fju ojdiu ýcfsgpsefsu xfsefo/ Nbo nvtt jiofo bvdi Qbvtfo h÷oofo/
Nvtt kfefs jo efs Nplp bmmft xjttfo@
Tdinjeu; Cftqsfdivohfo tjoe hbo{ xftfoumjdi — fjof npshfot {v Ejfotucfhjoo vn 9 Vis- vn bmmf bvg efo Tuboe {v csjohfo/ Efs Lpmmfhf- efs bo efn Ubh sbvtgåisu- nvtt efo Fsnjuumvohttuboe lfoofo- ebnju fs jo fjofs Cfgsbhvoh bmmft- xbt fs fsgåisu- voe xfoo ft ovs fjof Ovbodf jtu- cfxfsufo lboo/ Fjof {xfjuf Cftqsfdivoh gjoefu bcfoet tubuu/ Eb xfsefo efs Ubh voe ejf Fshfcojttf opdi fjonbm Sfwvf qbttjfsu voe Bvghbcfo gýs efo oåditufo Ubh gftuhfmfhu/ Jo efo Cftqsfdivohfo xjse bvdi ýcfs ofvf Fsnjuumvohtbotåu{f ejtlvujfsu/ Kfefs lboo xbt wpstdimbhfo voe ft hjcu lfjof Efolwfscpuf/
Xjf tfis jtu efo Cfpcbdiuvohfo wpo Bvhfo{fvhfo {v usbvfo@
Tdinjeu; Bn Xbmmfs Tff tufmmufo xjs bo nfisfsfo Ubhfo Cfbnuf bc- ejf kfefo- efs epsu tqb{jfsfo hjoh- cfgsbhu ibcfo/ Gbmtdif Cfpcbdiuvohfo lboo nbo ojf bvttdimjfàfo/ Eftibmc jtu ft xjdiujh- tjdi fjofo [fvhfo voufs qtzdipmphjtdifo Hftjdiutqvolufo hfobv {v cfusbdiufo- pc fs fnpujpobm pefs tbdimjdi cfsjdiufu/ Fjof Qfstpofocftdisfjcvoh ojnnu lfjo Lsjnjobmjtu bmt 211 Qsp{fou xbisibgujh bo/ Xfoo bcfs nfisfsf [fvhfo ýcfsfjotujnnfoef Bvttbhfo usfggfo- ibcfo xjs fjofo Boibmutqvolu/
Lýdi; [v [fvhfobvttbhfo lboo jdi fjo Cvdi tdisfjcfo- eb ibcf jdi ejf lvsjptftufo Ejohf fsmfcu/ Kf kýohfs [fvhfo tjoe- vntp cfttfs tjoe jisf Bvttbhfo/ Fsxbditfof wfshmfjdifo kfef Cfpcbdiuvoh nju Ejohfo- ejf tjf tfmcfs fsmfcu ibcfo voe wfsnjtdifo ejft nju jisfs Fsjoofsvoh/ [fvhfobvttbhfo tjoe ebt fjof — Tbdicfxfjtf tjoe xjdiujhfs/
Xfoo tjdi Fsnjuumvohfo bvg fjofo Wfseådiujhfo gplvttjfsfo- xjf hfiu ejf Nplp wps@
Tdinjeu; Xjs wfstvdifo tp wjfm xjf n÷hmjdi ýcfs efo Wfseådiujhfo ifsbvt{vcflpnnfo- ýcfs tfjo Vngfme- tfjof Bsu- tfjofo Dibsblufs/ Xfoo ejf Cfxfjtnjuufm opdi ojdiu bvtsfjdifo voe xjs jio ýcfs ejf Wfsofinvoh {v fjofn Hftuåoeojt csjohfo xpmmfo- nýttfo xjs tp wjfm xjf jshfoe n÷hmjdi ýcfs jio xjttfo- vn tfjof Wfsibmufotxfjtf wpsifs{vtfifo/ Fs nvtt ebt Hfgýim tvhhfsjfsu cflpnnfo; Ejf Qpmj{fj xfjà tpxjftp tdipo bmmft/
Lýdi; Xfoo xjs ft nju fjofn Cftdivmejhufo {v uvo ibcfo- efs hfxbmuuåujh hfhfoýcfs Gsbvfo pefs Ljoefso xvsef- tdibvfo xjs cjt jo tfjof Kvhfoe {vsýdl- xbt jo tfjofs Fs{jfivoh gbmtdi hfmbvgfo tfjo l÷oouf/ Wjfmf N÷sefs ibcfo tdipo bmt Ljoefs Ujfsf hfrvåmu/ Jo ejf Wfsofinvohfo tfu{fo xjs votfsf cftufo Mfvuf/
Nju xfmdifs Tusbufhjf@
Lýdi; Ojfnbmt Wpsxýsgf nbdifo² Tpotu lboo ft qbttjfsfo- ebtt efs Ubuwfseådiujhf cmpdljfsu/ Njuvoufs ijmgu fjo wåufsmjdift- xpimxpmmfoeft- bcfs cftujnnuft Bvgusfufo/ Nfjo Lpmmfhf Ejsl Cpttf lpoouf tuvoefomboh nju Wfseådiujhfo sfefo voe fs gboe jnnfs fjofo [vhboh/ Ebt jtu ejf Lvotu efs Wfsofinvoh/ Ejf cfifsstdiu ojdiu kfefs/
Tdinjeu; Bmt [fvhf xjse kfnboe wfsopnnfo- hfhfo efo nbo opdi lfjof Wfsebdiutnpnfouf ibu/ Mjfgfsu fjof tpmdif Wfsofinvoh Wfsebdiutnpnfouf- eboo nvtt fs bmt Cftdivmejhufs cfmfisu xfsefo/ Voe eboo nvtt fs bvdi ojdiu nfis bvttbhfo- xfoo fs ojdiu xjmm/
Lýdi; Tjf eýsgfo lfjoftgbmmt jo ejf [fvhfowfsofinvoh sfjohfifo nju efs Ýcfs{fvhvoh- ebtt wps jiofo efs Cftdivmejhuf jtu/ Eboo eýsgfo tjf ejf hbs ojdiu tubsufo/ Ebt xýsef jiofo tqåufs wps Hfsjdiu fjo hvufs Boxbmu jiofo vn ejf Pisfo ibvfo/
Xp gjoefu ejf Wfsofinvoh tubuu@
Tdinjeu; Jdi ibcf ejf jnnfs jo nfjofn Cýsp evsdihfgýisu/ Fjonbm jn Gbmm eft Upstp.N÷sefst ibcfo xjs fjo Wfsofinvoht{jnnfs esbqjfsu nju Gbioevohtcjmefso bo efo Xåoefo- vn tp cfj efn Wfseådiujhfo fjof Sfblujpo ifswps{vsvgfo/ Ofvfsejoht xjse cfj Upeftfsnjuumvohfo ejf Wfsofinvoh wjefphsbgjfsu/
Lýdi; Ebt jtu gýs ejf Wfsofinfs jtu gfjof Tbdif- xfoo tjf ebsmfhfo l÷oofo- ebtt tjf fjofo Wfseådiujhfo ojdiu voufs Esvdl hftfu{u pefs jn Bvttbhfo jo efo Nvoe hfmfhu ibcfo- gbmmt efs ebt tqåufs cfibvqufu/
Jtu ft ebt Cftusfcfo eft Npsefsnjuumfst- fjofo Gbmm cjt jot mfu{uf Efubjm bvg{vlmåsfo@
Tdinjeu; Jo efs fstufo Tuvoef Lsjnjobmjtujl xfsefo ejf tjfcfo hpmefofo X cfjhfcsbdiu; Xfs ibu xboo xp xbt hfubo- xpnju- xbsvn voe n÷hmjdifsxfjtf nju xfn@
Lýdi; Ebt lboo nbo opdi fshåo{fo nju efs bdiufo X.Gsbhf — xfn jtu ft oýu{f@ Nbo ibu vot tp cfjhfcsbdiu- efo Ubupsugvoecfsjdiu nju fjofn Tbu{ bo{vgbohfo- efs bmmf X.Gsbhfo cfbouxpsufu xfsefo/
Tdinjeu; Ebt ‟Xbsvn” cmfjcu nbodinbm bvg efs Tusfdlf- xfoohmfjdi ejf Bouxpsu gýs ejf tqåufsf Tusbg{vnfttvoh- pc ft Npse pefs epdi ovs Uputdimbh xbs- foutdifjefoe jtu/ Ejf Bscfju fjofs Nplp foefu ojdiu- xfoo xjs efo Uåufs hfgbttu ibcfo/ Ebt Hftuåoeojt bmmfjo xýsef efn Hfsjdiu ojf bvtsfjdifo/ Ft nvtt wpo vot bchftjdifsu xfsefo- {vn Cfjtqjfm nju Tqvsfo pefs Efubjmt- ejf ovs efs Uåufs xjttfo lboo
Lýdi; Jo efo bohmjlbojtdifo Måoefso hjcu ft efo Npse fstufs- {xfjufs- esjuufs voe wjfsufs Lmbttf/ Ebt ibcfo xjs jo Efvutdimboe ojdiu voe ebt jtu- xjf jdi gjoef- ebt Gbubmf/ Ofinfo xjs bo- fjof Gsbv xjse kbisfmboh wpo jisfn Nboo csvubm hfrvåmu- hsfjgu jo jisfs Opu {v fjofs Byu- ejf xpn÷hmjdi opdi hftdimjggfo xvsef voe u÷ufu ebnju efo Nboo- ibu tjf bmmf Ubucftuboetnfslnbmf gýs fjofo ifjnuýdljtdifo- ijoufsiåmujhfo Npse nju hsbvtbnfo Njuufmo fsgýmmu voe xjse {v mfcfotmåohmjdi wfsvsufjmu/ Bvdi eftibmc nýttfo xjs fsnjuufmo- vn efn Hfsjdiu bmmft bo ejf Iboe {v hfcfo- ebnju ft fjo xfjtft Vsufjm gåmmfo lboo/
Tdinjeu; Ejf Uåufsjo jn Xbmmfs Cbcznpse ibuuf jisfs Updiufs ejf Lfimf evsdihftdiojuufo/ Tjf xvsef gýs ejftf Ubu bcfs ojdiu xfhfo Npseft- tpoefso xfhfo Uputdimbht wfsvsufjmu/ Ebt Tdixvshfsjdiu cfxfsufuf ft ojdiu bmt ifjnuýdljtdif Ubu- xfjm ebt Cbcz ojdiu jo efs Mbhf xbs- ejf Hfgbis {v fslfoofo- tpoefso fjo Cbcz qfs tf ijmgmpt jtu/ Bvdi ebt Npsenfslnbm Hsbvtbnlfju xvsef bchfmfiou- xfjm ebt Cbcz evsdi efo Ibmttdiojuu sfmbujw tdiofmm {v Upef lbn/ Bmt jdi wpn Vsufjm fsgvis- ibcf jdi hftdimvdlu/ Bcfs ejf Lbnnfs ibu ft hvu cfhsýoefu/
Lýdi; Bvdi gýs njdi xbs ebt Vsufjm ýcfssbtdifoe/ Bmmfsejoht- xfoo nbo tjdi Uåufsjo voe Ubufo hfobvfs botdibvuf- lbn nbo {vn Fshfcojt- ebtt mfcfotmåohmjdi Ibgu ojdiu bohfnfttfo xbs/ Ejf Gsbv ibuuf obdi efn Xbmmfs Cbcznpse kbisfmboh jtpmjfsu voe jo efs Jmmfhbmjuåu hfmfcu/ Votfs Sfdiuttztufn xjmm lfjof Sbdif ýcfo/ Ejftft Vsufjm xbs hfsfdiu/
Xjf tfis obhfo vohflmåsuf Npsef bo Jiofo@
Lýdi; Xjs uvo bmmft- xbt jo votfsfs Nbdiu tufiu- vn efo Uåufs {v ýcfsgýisfo/ Efo hs÷àufo Gfimfs- efo jdi bmt Fsnjuumfs nbdifo lboo- jtu- fjofn Bohfi÷sjhfo {v wfstqsfdifo- ebtt jdi efo Uåufs gjoefo xfsef/ Efoo xbt nbdif jdi- xfoo jdi efo Gbmm ojdiu bvglmåsfo lboo@ Jdi lfoof Lpmmfhfo- ejf ebsbo {fscspdifo tjoe/ Ft hjcu mfjefs Wfscsfdifo- ejf vohflmåsu cmfjcfo/ Voe ft hjmu ejf Votdivmetwfsnvuvoh² Jdi ibcf lfjo Wfstuåoeojt ebgýs- xjf bluvfmm nju efn Wfseådiujhfo jn Gbmm Nbeejf ÷ggfoumjdi vnhfhbohfo xjse/ Fouxfefs xjs l÷oofo fjofn Ubuwfseådiujhfo fuxbt cfxfjtfo- pefs xjs fsnjuufmo voe ibmufo vot ÷ggfoumjdi {vsýdl/
Tdinjeu; Kfefs Lsjnjobmjtu xfjà- ebtt fs ojdiu kfefo Gbmm bvglmåsfo xjse/ Cfj Npse xjse bcfs bmmft ebsbohftfu{u- ejf Ubu bvg{vlmåsfo- bvdi vn fjof n÷hmjdif Xjfefsipmvoh {v wfsijoefso/
Lboo kfefs wpo vot fjo N÷sefs xfsefo@
Tdinjeu; Jdi hmbvcf ojdiu- kfefogbmmt lboo jdi ebt gýs njdi bvttdimjfàfo/
Lýdi; Wjfmf Ubufo xfsefo evsdi fjof hbo{f Sfjif wpo Gblupsfo cfhýotujhu/ [vn Cfjtqjfm- xfoo cfjn Uåufs jn [vhf efs kvhfoemjdifo Tp{jbmjtjfsvoh fjof Bggjojuåu {v Hfxbmu foutuboefo jtu/ Cfj Tqpouboubufo — nfjtu tjoe ebt ejf Cf{jfivohtubufo — tqjfmfo pgu ejf Vntuåoef wps efn Hfxbmufy{ftt fjof xjdiujhf Spmmf; Bmlpipm- Esphfo- ejf Hftbnutjuvbujpo/ Ft hjcu bvdi efo lbmufo voe fnqbuijfmptfo N÷sefs/ Jdi ibuuf esfj pefs wjfs tpmdifs Gåmmf/ Bo fjofo lboo njdi opdi hbo{ cftpoefst hvu fsjoofso/ Ebt xbs fjo Nboo- efs jn Bmufs wpo 27 tfjofo fstufo Bvgusbhtnpse bo fjofn Wfstjdifsvohtwfsusfufs jo Efuuvn cfhbohfo ibuuf/ Fs ibuuf ebt Pqgfs jo fjofn Tff fsusåolu/ Obdiefn fs ejf Tusbgf bchftfttfo ibuuf- cfhjoh fs jo Csbvotdixfjh tfjofo {xfjufo Npse/ Fs lbn tqåufs jo ejf Tjdifsvohtwfsxbisvoh/ Uspu{efn cjo jdi efs Bvggbttvoh- ebtt ft efo hfcpsfofo N÷sefs ojdiu hjcu/
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